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		<title>By: Brook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn, I could give you a specific answer if you had a specific circumstance...in general, when it comes to &lt;strong&gt;commerce&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;, I get hounded regularly, by men (taxis and pimps) and women (clothes, handicrafts, massages). Vietnam has had, by far, the most aggressive touts. They do not know how to take &quot;no&quot; for an answer, and are relentless. Maybe because they were shut off from the free world for so long and have only in recent years been given pretty much an open door commerce setting, they don&#039;t quite &quot;get&quot; the fine art of salesmanship. In other words, capitalism has hit Vietnam so hard and so fast, and the Vietnamese are clamoring for more income and better lives that this is the result so far. Thais, on the other hand, seem so jaded to me, but are much easier going. There are so many tourists here compared to Vietnam and I think the novelty of foreigners is basically gone from Thailand. If I tell a taxi driver I&#039;m not interested, he drops his pitch right then. Same with everyone else. They give it one feeble shot and then leave the tourists alone. The bottom line is that Westerners are seen as wealthy (which we are, relative to their incomes) and they are hungry to take our money. The best way to avoid being harassed or mobbed is to never make eye contact, ignore touts, and keep moving. I do this often. It&#039;s not considered rude, either.

When it comes to &lt;strong&gt;personal &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;interactions having nothing to do with business transactions, I get ignored by most. In Vietnam, I would get unwanted attention from men, eyeballing my wallet or camera. Since Vietnam is notorious for pickpockets, I was very selective about when I would use my camera and always maintained a defensive posture. I kept my guard up nearly full time. In Thailand, I&#039;m not very concerned about being robbed. Of course, the only place where I was actually robbed (unsuccessfully) was in Mongolia. As for women, in Vietnam, I found the women to be traditional and shy, yet assertive enough that many wanted to maintain contact by email. Bar none, Vietnamese women are the most sincerely friendliest women I&#039;ve ever met anywhere. I was pleasantly surprised by how innocent they are, especially after how I&#039;d seen Vietnamese women portrayed in movies. Thailand, on the other hand, has very liberal women, but so many that I&#039;ve met expect money and gifts in some form, simply for knowing them. The dating culture here is a phenomenon unique in the world. Mongolian women, fiercely independent, couldn&#039;t have cared less about me. I did a little social &quot;experiment,&quot; where I would walk down the street and say &quot;hello&quot; to all the women to try to get a reaction, any reaction. Maybe 20% would respond. The rest ignored me completely! Bogy, my friend in the Mongolian videos, can vouch for this. The other countries I&#039;ve visited are wealthy and modernized enough that I view them as being variations of what we have in the US. The bottom line in SE Asia, once again, even on a personal level, is that Westerners are seen as walking banks. It is no surprise that many of the most attractive, best educated Thai girls I&#039;ve met have foreign boyfriends.

Awesome question! Definitely a topic worthy of more than a comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, I could give you a specific answer if you had a specific circumstance&#8230;in general, when it comes to <strong>commerce</strong><em>, I get hounded regularly, by men (taxis and pimps) and women (clothes, handicrafts, massages). Vietnam has had, by far, the most aggressive touts. They do not know how to take &#8220;no&#8221; for an answer, and are relentless. Maybe because they were shut off from the free world for so long and have only in recent years been given pretty much an open door commerce setting, they don&#8217;t quite &#8220;get&#8221; the fine art of salesmanship. In other words, capitalism has hit Vietnam so hard and so fast, and the Vietnamese are clamoring for more income and better lives that this is the result so far. Thais, on the other hand, seem so jaded to me, but are much easier going. There are so many tourists here compared to Vietnam and I think the novelty of foreigners is basically gone from Thailand. If I tell a taxi driver I&#8217;m not interested, he drops his pitch right then. Same with everyone else. They give it one feeble shot and then leave the tourists alone. The bottom line is that Westerners are seen as wealthy (which we are, relative to their incomes) and they are hungry to take our money. The best way to avoid being harassed or mobbed is to never make eye contact, ignore touts, and keep moving. I do this often. It&#8217;s not considered rude, either.</p>
<p>When it comes to <strong>personal </strong></em>interactions having nothing to do with business transactions, I get ignored by most. In Vietnam, I would get unwanted attention from men, eyeballing my wallet or camera. Since Vietnam is notorious for pickpockets, I was very selective about when I would use my camera and always maintained a defensive posture. I kept my guard up nearly full time. In Thailand, I&#8217;m not very concerned about being robbed. Of course, the only place where I was actually robbed (unsuccessfully) was in Mongolia. As for women, in Vietnam, I found the women to be traditional and shy, yet assertive enough that many wanted to maintain contact by email. Bar none, Vietnamese women are the most sincerely friendliest women I&#8217;ve ever met anywhere. I was pleasantly surprised by how innocent they are, especially after how I&#8217;d seen Vietnamese women portrayed in movies. Thailand, on the other hand, has very liberal women, but so many that I&#8217;ve met expect money and gifts in some form, simply for knowing them. The dating culture here is a phenomenon unique in the world. Mongolian women, fiercely independent, couldn&#8217;t have cared less about me. I did a little social &#8220;experiment,&#8221; where I would walk down the street and say &#8220;hello&#8221; to all the women to try to get a reaction, any reaction. Maybe 20% would respond. The rest ignored me completely! Bogy, my friend in the Mongolian videos, can vouch for this. The other countries I&#8217;ve visited are wealthy and modernized enough that I view them as being variations of what we have in the US. The bottom line in SE Asia, once again, even on a personal level, is that Westerners are seen as walking banks. It is no surprise that many of the most attractive, best educated Thai girls I&#8217;ve met have foreign boyfriends.</p>
<p>Awesome question! Definitely a topic worthy of more than a comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.endsofearth.com/2009/09/around-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How often are you mobbed compared to ignored.  You have a smiley disposition and have a camera out quite a bit.  I&#039;d think you&#039;d be mobbed continuously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How often are you mobbed compared to ignored.  You have a smiley disposition and have a camera out quite a bit.  I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d be mobbed continuously.</p>
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		<title>By: Brook</title>
		<link>http://www.endsofearth.com/2009/09/around-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Brook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele, thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Brook</title>
		<link>http://www.endsofearth.com/2009/09/around-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Brook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine, thanks!
It is all about the life essence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine, thanks!<br />
It is all about the life essence!</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brook, awesome photos.  Its a lot of fun seeing your experiences through the lens of your camera.  Keep them coming!  Hope you&#039;re having an amazing time.</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these pictures are amazing Brook.  You are doing a great job of capturing the essence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these pictures are amazing Brook.  You are doing a great job of capturing the essence!</p>
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